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I’m sure the American public is dying to get behind a bunch of air traffic controllers who make 150k plus with great benefitsMaybe Emily Steele can do an article about our pay and get the public on our side?
I’m sure the American public is dying to get behind a bunch of air traffic controllers who make 150k plus with great benefitsMaybe Emily Steele can do an article about our pay and get the public on our side?
Absolutely. Let's not forget where we came from. From PATCO Wikipedia:I'll say it again, read Collision Course. There were many many successful slow down/safety plays/play by the book shifts that caused waves of delays at core 30s prior to the strike that got the government to wake up and give them what they needed.
It was pissed off, burnt out, underappreciated controllers who did it on their own then, and may eventually repeat itself soon.
"Thankfully our current leadership is different.." You're joking right?Again, I am not disagreeing with you. The difference is I am not in the past. I am thinking about the present and future. Thankfully our current leadership is different and we will have new leadership for the next negotiations. The extension has no bearing on the upcoming negotiations
Solid rebuttal."Thankfully our current leadership is different.." You're joking right?
Our current President and EVP were members of the NEB at the time of the extension. Furthermore, of the 12 NEB members at the time of the extension, 9 of the 12 are still members of the NEB. Jim, who just retired last month or so would have been the 10th member. Brian, replaced Rich. Nick, who was the ARVP, replaced Andrew. Paul is on the payroll and hanging around. Dean is still the Chief of Staff. So outside of Trish, the past team, is still our current team.
Yah the public actually wants the people making sure airplanes don’t collide are compensated. Also we need to frame it in the tone of the raises the rest of the Industry has gotten. Including TSAI’m sure the American public is dying to get behind a bunch of air traffic controllers who make 150k plus with great benefits
Good news, airplanes aren’t collidingYah the public actually wants the people making sure airplanes don’t collide are compensated. Also we need to frame it in the tone of the raises the rest of the Industry has gotten. Including TSA
The public already thinks we are so stressed out
ATC was involved. The pilots were committedDamn, those crashes were ATCs fault?
Reference APA Mid-Air (NTSB Analysis): "The controller did not issue a traffic advisory to the pilot of Swearingen regarding the location of the Cirrus. The two airplanes were on different tower frequencies and had the controller issued an advisory, the pilot of the Swearingen may have been able to identify the conflict and maneuver his airplane to avoid the collision."Damn, those crashes were ATCs fault?
Alright, 40k would have prevented that collisionReference APA Mid-Air (NTSB Analysis): "The controller did not issue a traffic advisory to the pilot of Swearingen regarding the location of the Cirrus. The two airplanes were on different tower frequencies and had the controller issued an advisory, the pilot of the Swearingen may have been able to identify the conflict and maneuver his airplane to avoid the collision."
Reference VGT Mid-Air: Preliminary NTSB report shows that neither aircraft was issued traffic advisories or safety alerts per the transcripts.
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Im willing to test it out if you areAlright, 40k would have prevented that collision
Not sure if its been said but i want to see a timeline requirement as a CPC before you're eligible to submit ERR paperwork. Im tired of getting people checked out only for them to leave before working their first mid.
at least. one of our guys said 18mo so they can start training to at least have some skin in the game12 month cpc just like a bid just like a swap
Probably but that doesn't satisfy the need for a traffic callWouldn’t the parallel runways in use be on the ATIS at APA satisfying the need to let pilots know about traffic on the parallel runway?
The sr22 was issued traffic properly. He blew through the final so badly that he also blew through the parallel final. Atrocious pilot error. The key lime straight in was not given traffic properly. Made no difference because the collision came from behind him anyway but technically he needed to be given that call on the sr22 base to final for the parallel.Probably but that doesn't satisfy the need for a traffic call